sheahisselfhas a big problem with the “Too nice” comics culture. Comic Books: See Something, Say Something: Comics Culture And Its Problem With Not Talking Smack
Sorry; comic nerd nonsense; sorry; can’t sleep— Looking at these other tweets to find out more about "#makingcomics"… a few more kinda jumped out…
Tweet 1) ”Being super talented will take you far. Being relatively talented and a pro and easy to deal with will take you just as far.” uhhhhh, this one maybe could’ve been phrased a whole lot better…? But good luck with your lifelong dream of becoming “relatively talented,” everybody! Enjoy your long journey to the middle.
Tweet 2) “Your own comic… something you have completed… will be the best ‘business card’ to send to editors." Pet Peeve— I keep hearing comic book people characterizing "make your own work" as a stepping stone to getting a job writing Batman or whatever, and while provably solid career advice, hey, maybe you guys could try a little harder to pretend making your own work is more than just creating "Business cards"…? Like, maybe fake something about, like, there being an inherent value to "creating art" or "expressing yourself" or "having fun" or whatever…? Just fake it!
Tweet 3) “Other creators can be a big help to you in your career… but we have long memories… and we hold grudges. #makecomics" This tweet is my favorite. Because: holy shit, do comic creators ever sound like douchebags! Why would you want to #makecomics if you’re going to be around a bunch of people who brag about holding grudges??? Who wants to join that club? Maybe try to find a supportive artistic community that isn’t filled with angry weirdos and their grudges…? #make-better-friends. Or spend that time and learn to cook! I made a pork-and-prawn meatball the other night— it was terrible because I didn’t really season the meat enough…? But: Gordon Ramsey’s not holding a grudge because I screwed up his recipe (I hope). #make-me-a-sandwich?
Tweet 4) ”Because so many seem to have misunderstood what I said (and others understood perfectly and still want to make a soapbox outta it)…" Here’s where I had to smile— after he gets criticized, he has to clarify things— but not because he wrote something badly, clumsily, disagreeable, or uncool. No, no— it’s because Evil Internet People wanted to twist what he said, using screenshots of his own words! Sinister people understood his good intentions perfectly— perfectly— but they preferred their soapboxes, for their soapbox derby of human misery. Other people aren’t struggling to express their own opinions equally clumsily— they’re bad guys and you’re the good guy, forever. I’ve been to this rodeo before— I know all the words to this song…
Tweet 5) After clarifying that people should say something about “bad behavior,” he then immediately clarifies his clarification: ”That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t say something. But I’d be remiss if I told an aspiring creator that such actions never have consequences."— So you should say something about bad behavior if you want to, but also simultaneously keep in mind that folks have created and routinely celebrate an environment of fear and grudges that allow wrongful actors to know they can retaliate against you for speaking out without drawing even a shred of public censure from their colleagues. You’re all set! Jump into the air— freeze frame— cue: Tina Turner’s Simply the Best.
Definitely an important follow up to Shea’s piece. I dug Sixth Gun, don’t really care to read it anymore after this mess. I honestly can’t believe there is someone who has been in comics so long and thinks that high-profile creators don’t treat legitimate critical responses like ad hominem attacks. The reason why Bunn’s advice isn’t horrible advice is because it perpetuates the current power structure, but I’ve yet to find someone who I respect that would argue that the current power structure in comics is just fine as it is. Teaching up-and-coming creators that they should be careful who they piss off because creators have long memories and hold grudges… yeah, maybe we should be working toward a comics culture that doesn’t pull that shit. And Bunn’s #makecomics mess is pretty much the opposite of that.
If you’re a creator who values getting work over making good work, your comics are probably not that good. History has shown, time and time again, that as long as your comics sell, you can get work. Whether it’s “Let me be a gross, sexist ass” like Brian Wood…or it’s “Yeah, this comic is bullshit” like Brandon Graham…you can say or do whatever…as long as your comics sell. So if you can be a shit or talk some shit and still get work, wouldn’t it be better to be talking shit?
Man, I got into a thing with Bunn and muted him. Done with that shit. He basically said “you can critique, but don’t be a jackass, people remember jackasses.” Big name folks in comics take critique of art as critique of character, then tell critics to drown in hobo piss. The metric of jackassery or legit critique is a sliding scale, and way too many comics creators have way too thin of skin.
I’m glad to see someone like Shea writing a thing not unlike what Nick and I wrote about comics needing more shittalking.
"Millennial is a label no one wants to wear. It’s like “hipster” in that way. A pointed generalization, othering. The first time I read “Mature Themes”, I was excited-calm by Durbin’s lush language and novel take on our shared everyday (his first-persons are diverse, as are his line breaks; he writes essays in dialogue and poems on, like, “Clueless”’s Cher as flâneuse!). Reading back though, with mind to review, a malicious critic started speaking through me. She boomed, you kids are petty, narcissistic, spoiled — perpetual adolescent, obsessed with your screens — you know no true struggle, nor action* . It took days of note-taking to recognize that voice as not my own. That voice is inherited—from family, mass media. I resist."
Read this, see how @fifidunks finds connections between spectacle, millenials, reality, poetry, PRISM, 10:04, etc: https://www.textezurkunst.de/articles/fiona-duncan-andrew-durbins-mature-themes/
Reblogging so I can find this later, but I have shamelessly referred to myself as a millennial and will continue to do so.
weds. - 7:30 - powell’s city of books
Someone needs to record this. Not that the other events won’t be great, not that Chicago’s won’t be fun, but there is no way that Fraction+Darnielle won’t be one of the best conversations…
(Source: , via devil-in-the-shortwave)
Does anyone know a gallery in Chicago that would be interested in showing what’s likely going to be approximately 200 tiny drawings of characters from movies featured in Mystery Science Theater 3000 episodes like 5 or 6 months from now? Cause I’ve got a lot of those.
Well. Yeah, pretty much. My friend chickenoverlord made this for us so we could have matching DA icons! I still use it!!!!
I don’t have a gif folder. Shit.